Response 272702556

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Personal Information

What is your name?

Name
john buckingham

What is your organisation?

Organisation
bunbury building company

Which best describes your industry sector?

Which best describes your industry sector?
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Building Commercial
Building Residential
Ticked Building Commercial and Residential
Building and plumbing products
Building Certification/ Surveying
Architecture and design
Engineering
Plumbing
Compliance, testing and accreditation
Legal and Finance
Specialist - disability access
Specialist - energy efficiency
Specialist - fire safety
Specialist - health
Specialist - hydraulic/ plumbing
Student/ apprentices
Trades and other construction services
Education
Community and Non-Government organisations
Government
General Public
Other

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ACT
NSW
NT
Qld
SA
Tas
Vic
Ticked WA

On whose behalf are you making this submission?

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I am making this submission on behalf of a business
I am making this submission on behalf of an industry body
I am making this submission on behalf of a government agency

General Questions

Does the proposed NRF deliver an appropriate and proportionate response to BCR Recommendations 1 and 2?

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Yes
Ticked No
Unsure
If No, please provide reasons and suggestions.
There should be no exemptions for owner builders to perform building works on domestic buildings. Likewise there are other exemptions in WA for which registration is not required eg. construction of a farm building ..., and production of a prefabricated or transportable building in a manufacturing yard. I believe that having these buildings being built "unregulated", that is not built by a registered Building Contractor, does not provide confidence in their construction; particularly the structural, electrical and hydraulic aspects of these buildings.

Most importantly there is no need to have subcategories for builders. Let the market place sought it all out. Is it the absence of builder sub-categories that causes non-compliance with the ncc? Will builder sub-categries improve compliance with the ncc? To both questions, NO. There is just vested interest at play here . The "larger" builder does not want the "smaller" builder nipping at their heels in the tender process and lowering the cost of the project. The market place is unlikely to allow a builder with little or no experience in high rise commercial undertaking a project of this level. How do you think the larger builder ever got to this level - by starting as a smaller builder and working their way up. How is a lower level builder ever going to move to higher level? A mountain of paperwork will be required to justify a higher level; and then it will be take forever and a day to get approved. Again it is about vested interest . A monopoly of builders at the higher levels (very difficult for anyone else to ever "break in" to the higher levels). And again the community will suffer with higher prices and it will not ensure that there is greater compliance with the national construction code.

Also these levels are not clear. For example level 3 - single residential (class 1 and 10); is class 1b included or not.

But again there is no need for sub-categories of builders. The existing, and proposed regulations and mechanisms are enough to ensure compliance with the ncc.

Will the NRF, if implemented, enhance confidence in the building industry by ensuring that key practitioners in the building process are registered?

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Yes
No
Ticked Unsure
If No, please provide reasons and suggestions.
In theory it all sounds good, but in practice the key practitioners will find additional ways to become risk adverse/"pass the buck" in order to keep the costs down. If not the costs of implementing many of the recommendations will increase greatly. The key practitioners will then be forced to pass the costs onto the consumer.

Do you foresee any risks in implementing this proposal, noting that the states and territories are responsible for implementation of the NRF?

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Ticked Yes
No
Unsure
Please explain your reasoning.
More red tape. Therefore ultimately it will only be the larger key practitioners who will "survive". Without the smaller enterprises there is less competition and therefore the cost to the consumer increases. Also the Government will increase the builders levy, and all that will happen is the bureaucracy increases but really no additional skills to implement these proposals. The white collar workers believe they know what is required and never getting out of their office. Creating more red tape/paperwork to justify their jobs. That's all that ever happens. And what really annoys me is that the cost of implementing the proposal comes from an increased levy not consolidated revenue fund or better still the regulatory body just working a bit harder.

Do you think the proposed NRF will improve compliance with the NCC?

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Yes
No
Ticked Unsure
Please explain your reasoning.
It's all in the detail. And will people work as a team or continue to be risk adverse.

NRF Discipline Specific Comments

Please provide your comments below.

Your comment relates to:
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Ticked Building design
Energy efficiency design
Disability access design
Geotechnical design
Structural design
Electrical design
Mechanical design
Hydraulic design
Plumbing design
Fire safety design
Fire systems design
Façade design
Building
Fire systems installation
Plumbing
Building surveying
Fire systems inspection
Project management
Any other comments for this discipline
Over the years the quality of drawings as decreased. With CAD drawings there is too much cut and paste from other projects. Often the information is not even pertinent to the building, however it "bulks" up the quantity of drawings and therefore the client feels they get value for money. Also the very basics of drafting (knowing the information the builder requires to construct) is not provided. Too much clicking and dragging of measurements and too much information on one drawing are just a few problem areas.

Also the use of the NATSPEC for all buildings. Basically it is just a document which references all possible standards and part ncc. Not much is project specific, or if it is it gets lost in the quantity paperwork.

Would you like to comment on another discipline?

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Yes
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NRF Discipline Specific Comments

Please provide your comments below.

Your comment relates to:
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Ticked Building design
Energy efficiency design
Disability access design
Geotechnical design
Structural design
Electrical design
Mechanical design
Hydraulic design
Plumbing design
Fire safety design
Fire systems design
Façade design
Building
Fire systems installation
Plumbing
Building surveying
Fire systems inspection
Project management

Add another comment?

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No

Other Comments

The ABCB is specifically interested in your comments on the registration levels for building surveyors. Do you agree with the criteria used to distinguish between with the two levels of registration for building surveyors and does it adequately accommodate the different levels of risk?

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Yes
No
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Are there any other matters you wish to comment on?

Comments
Just make sure there are no vested interests are at play. That is, practitioners are primarily concerned only about their business and not the industry as a whole.

Everything must be totally transparent and concise.