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Does the proposed NRF deliver an appropriate and proportionate response to BCR Recommendations 1 and 2?
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Will the NRF, if implemented, enhance confidence in the building industry by ensuring that key practitioners in the building process are registered?
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Do you foresee any risks in implementing this proposal, noting that the states and territories are responsible for implementation of the NRF?
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Reaching agreement between states on licensing and mutual recognition would be difficult, particularly with different states regulating plumbing, wet fire and stormwater drainage works differently.
Do you think the proposed NRF will improve compliance with the NCC?
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A national registration framework is generally a good idea, but having mechanical and civil engineers only signing of on performance based plumbing solutions may not improve compliance with the NCC. There are many parts of the Plumbing Code of Australia and associated Australian Standards mechanical and civil engineers may not be familiar with. A hydraulic consultant with a Diploma in Hydraulic Services Engineering and the relevant experience would in many case be more appropriately qualified to design performance based and DTS plumbing solutions.
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Hydraulic engineering designers Level 1 - page 76
This should not be limited to engineers as in the absence of a "hydraulic services engineering degree" at university level, this could fall under mechanical and civil engineering degrees. These qualifications do not appropriately cover stormwater designs, backflow prevention systems, venting systems, etc. A person holding a Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design CPC50612 (or equivalent) and with the relevant experience may be more appropriately qualified to design performance based plumbing solutions
This should not be limited to engineers as in the absence of a "hydraulic services engineering degree" at university level, this could fall under mechanical and civil engineering degrees. These qualifications do not appropriately cover stormwater designs, backflow prevention systems, venting systems, etc. A person holding a Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design CPC50612 (or equivalent) and with the relevant experience may be more appropriately qualified to design performance based plumbing solutions
Descriptions/definitions
The NRF for hydraulic engineering designers and plumbing technical designers has the functional effect of restricting the design of Performance Solutions (not done in accordance with a prescriptive standard) to registered professional engineering hydraulic designers)" page 76
As above, experienced consultants with a Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design qualification should not be excluded from designing performance based solutions.
As above, experienced consultants with a Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design qualification should not be excluded from designing performance based solutions.
Scope of work
Performance based solutions for hydraulic services design
Qualification requirements
Professional engineer qualifications must be accredited to the Washington Accord. - page 76.
I don't believe an appropriate hydraulic engineering degree exists in Australia. A mechanical or civil engineering degree does not automatically provide adequate training in backflow prevention, stormwater design, stack and vent systems and other parts of hydraulic services designs. The Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design CPC50612 in conjunction with NCC training and the relevant experience would in many cases be more appropriate to design and certify performance based solutions.
I don't believe an appropriate hydraulic engineering degree exists in Australia. A mechanical or civil engineering degree does not automatically provide adequate training in backflow prevention, stormwater design, stack and vent systems and other parts of hydraulic services designs. The Diploma of Hydraulic Services Design CPC50612 in conjunction with NCC training and the relevant experience would in many cases be more appropriate to design and certify performance based solutions.
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Registration levels
Plumbing technical design Level 2—Technical Limited page 82
Scope of work
Plumbing technical design work for NCC Class 1 and 10 buildings, and for NCC Class 2 to 9 buildings to a maximum of six storeys above a storey used for the parking of vehicles. - page 83
A Cert IV qualification is not sufficient for this size building as there could be multiple above ground carpark levels increasing the effective height of the building and also FPAA101D hydraulic designs required. A CertIV qualification should be limited to buildings with a rise in storey of no more than 3.
A Cert IV qualification is not sufficient for this size building as there could be multiple above ground carpark levels increasing the effective height of the building and also FPAA101D hydraulic designs required. A CertIV qualification should be limited to buildings with a rise in storey of no more than 3.
Qualification requirements
An approved certificate IV in plumbing and services
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The ABCB is specifically interested in your comments on the registration levels for building surveyors. Do you agree with the criteria used to distinguish between with the two levels of registration for building surveyors and does it adequately accommodate the different levels of risk?
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In QLD, Plumbing inspectors issue compliance certificates for designs as well as plumbing installations. A building surveyors qualification does not adequately cover hydraulic services. Plumbing installations present a specific health risk to the public and there should be a specific "inspect and certify hydraulic services" license class.