Discussion paper: National Registration Framework for Building Practitioners

My comments relate to the Fire Systems Design sections relating to NSW.
The qualifications requirements are unrealistic.
Any degree in civil, hydraulic or water services engineering DOES NOT generally include approved training in the application and use of the NCC. Much of the actual competency comes from learning outside the degree program. There are other engineering qualifications that may be equally appropriate.
A degree in fire safety engineering is not required to be able to perform Water-Based Firefighting and Fire Suppression design. Some may have a mechanical engineering degree, or certificate, or a trade qualification and then learned on the job from other practitioners.
Diplomas are not commonly available for fire system design for either Water-Based Firefighting and Fire Suppression or Fire Detection Alarm and Warning Systems. Many practitioners have learned from other practitioners in the work place.

My comments relate to the Fire Systems Design sections relating to NSW.
Many experienced practitioners will not meet the degree or diploma qualifications requirements as they have learned from other practioners on the job. The current reference to specific degree disciplines is too restrictive.

My comments relate to the Fire Systems Design sections relating to NSW.
The degree and diploma qualifications do not generally include NCC content to provide a level of qualification in the NCC.
There should be specific qualifications in the NCC that correspond to the requirements of the role.

The qualifications requirements are unrealistic.
Any degree in civil, hydraulic or water services engineering DOES NOT generally include approved training in the application and use of the NCC. Much of the actual competency comes from learning outside the degree program. There are other engineering qualifications that may be equally appropriate.
A degree in fire safety engineering is not required to be able to perform Water-Based Firefighting and Fire Suppression design. Some may have a mechanical engineering degree, or certificate, or a trade qualification and then learned on the job from other practitioners.

Diplomas are not commonly available for fire system design for either Water-Based Firefighting and Fire Suppression or Fire Detection Alarm and Warning Systems. Many practitioners have learned from other practitioners in the work place.

The degree and diploma qualifications do not generally include NCC content to provide a level of qualification in the NCC.
There should be specific qualifications in the NCC that correspond to the requirements of the role.

Many experienced practitioners will not meet the degree or diploma qualifications requirements as they have learned from other practioners on the job. The current references to specific degree disciplines is too restrictive.

The degree and diploma requirements do not link directly to competency.

Competency should be assessed for registration.

Risks associated with large buildings are generally much more, eg the need for appropriate fire engineering including the assessment of cladding, etc